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Microsoft MN-700 Wireless 802.11g Base Station Router
Microsoft MN-700 Wireless 802.11g Base Station Router
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Model: R84-00001
Brand: Microsoft
Manufacturer: Microsoft
Average Rating:    (submit your review here)
Total Reviews: 96
Platforms: Xbox
Form factor: External
Hardware platform: xbox
Data link protocol: Ethernet, Fast Ethernet, IEEE 802.11b, IEEE 802.11g
 
Features:
Intelligent software automatically detects your Internet service and modem settings for easy base station configuration
Commercial-grade, built-in hardware Stateful Packet Inspection (SPI) firewall and Network Address Translation (NAT) to help protect against unauthorized access
Full compatibility with 802.11g and 802.11b Wi-Fi networks
Flexible support for 256-bit Wi-Fi Protected Access (WPA) and 128-bit Wired Equivalent Privacy (WEP) delivers strong wireless security
Compatible with Windows 98, 98 SE, Me, 2000 Professional, and XP
 
Description:
Experience wireless freedom at lightning-fast speed with a state-of-the-art 802.11g wireless network. The new standard in wireless lets you share files, printers, and a single broadband Internet connection with unmatched performance and security. Enjoy fast file swapping, printer sharing, and multiplayer gaming throughout your home or small office.
 
User Reviews (96 total):
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    Totally Dependable, April 16, 2004
By Christina Larse (San Carlos, CA United States)
I was petrified at the thought of disconnecting my existing modem and installing this unknown quantity. But the installation was a breeze. My DSL was back up within seconds. And the wireless adaptor for my daughters' computer was even easier to install. We had a wireless network up and running in half an hour. We don't notice any loss of speed in loading/streaming. As much as I hate to admit it, you can count on Microsoft!

    So-so Wi-fi, April 2, 2004
By intermediate photographer (CAN)
I haven't used other wireless routers but this one was not an ideal solution. The biggest problems are the disconnects and the speed in that order. It wasn't really simple to set up either though not overwhelmingly difficult. I have a D-link 704 which is wired but connects much faster than the mn700 even when both are wired. There is a half-1 second delay on the mn700 to bring up pages. Plus the most annoying factor is that the router drops connection at varying times.

    Wireless connection and DHCP has problems...., March 30, 2004
By my_view (Los Angeles)
I get this MN-700 to replace MN-500, what a mistake!

1. DHCP sometimes hand out IPs out of the setting range.
2. Wireless keeps on droping and reconnecting. That makes downloading large files almost impossible.
3. In b/g mix mode, b mode client may not be able to connect.

I know people will argue that interferrence (from 2.4GHz appliances) is the cause of disconnection, but my MN-500 never has the same problem. Microsoft seems slow (or not at all) release the fixes for this model. :(

    Beats Linksys any day, March 25, 2004
By Micheal Cox (Burnaby, BC, Canada)
Hi,
I had Linksys in as their Cable/DSL Gateway and their Wireless Access Product and it just had far too many problems. My Internet interface was available only about 55 percent of the time.

I tried the MN-700 and it works great. 100% internet connection, better signal for the same distance from the node, less interference from wireless phones and the microwave. I've now replace all my Linksys equipment with these and have excellent coverage, no drop outs, consistent connection etc.

What a great product!

    Get anything but this one, March 22, 2004
By xpacdx (Dearborn, MI USA)
Man does this router really suck, tried to set this up for a friend and the first one was defective, ok maybe i just got unlucky, so he returns it.
Then we get everything running on the 2nd one, no problem, after installing the software for 30mins.
Then all of a sudden it just stops working so we go into the settings and the base station isnt even showing up.
Long story short go with a linksys, had it up and running in 2 minutes, the guy i was installing it for was like thats it? dont we have to go through some long installation process?


    Technical Literacy and Common Sense, March 19, 2004
By unknown
If you are technically literate install it yourself, if you are not, have someone that is install it. This product is great for the money. What it comes down to is either you can use technical know how with common sense to figure out your installation or you will be whining like these babies. Obviously, they cannot write a manual with every possible setup scenario in it! Buy and enjoy your computer where you want to. It is great to be wireless!

    Absolutely dreadful, March 16, 2004
By unknown
My first advice to anyone considering purchasing this router would be to go to the Microsoft website and read through the community newsgroups (http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/broadbandnetworking/10_Newsgroups.mspx). The number of users experiencing problems with this unit should give you a good idea about the quality of this product.

I bought the MN-700 for use in my home office and my first impression of it was that it seemed very clumsy to set up and use compared to my non-wireless Linksys router I've been using. The documentation was very sparse and somewhat confusing. The setup program also reset my computer's network settings without my permission, which really iritates me. Eventually, though, I was able to get my ethernet clients on the Internet, but I was never able to get my wireless clients connected, nor was I able to get the port forwarding to work. I didn't bother to contact tech support because (as you'll read in the newsgroups) the support for this product has been outsourced to India and appears to be pretty useless.

I get the feeling after using this router that it's designed to be fairly plug-and-play for non-technical home users, but I think that might be its greatest problem. It tries to configure everything itself and does not provide enough control or technical documentation to the end user. So when something doesn't work right, its much more difficult to figure out the problem.

    Easy set up and great support, March 7, 2004
By J. Yoo (New York, NY USA)
I'm running a Sony VAIO TR3A and an older Micron Desktop. I also have a Playstation 2 using the network with linksys wireless bridge. I was able to get it all set up and running on all three systems in about 2 hours. Ran into some problems with my laptop which MS support was able to help me with. So far I'm pleased with it and it's doing everything that I need. Tip: If you have a network bridge on your laptop, delete it, that was the problem with my SONY VAIO which would not let me connect to the internet.

    Great for Wireless... Not so Great as a Router, March 7, 2004
By TimInChicago (Chicago, IL USA)
I'll start by saying that I really did my research before buying this and I still think it was a good purchase. In terms of bang-for-your-buck, this device tops the list. The SPI Firewall, WPA support, and easy setup make this a great choice for the casual home user. Add to that the great help menus, the industry's best support site, and the oh-so Microsoft intuitive wizards and you've got yourself an easy best-buy.

So why I'm only giving it three stars? In short, I'm dissapointed in the router performace and functionality. This is really only going to impact those of us who like to tinker with things like this, so for those of you who don't know your DMZs from your DHCPs, go ahead - this is probably a very good choice. The wireless aspects work great!

Here is my beef: As a router, it's quite limited and I find the NAT and firewall to be sluggish. Also, you can't disable the firewall without shutting down the routing functionality altogether (switching it over to Access Point mode). Which, of course, disables NAT and DHCP as well. This is fine if you only have one PC on the network and are running WinXP firewall but not so great if you want to share the connection without messing around with ICS.

In router mode, it seems to make for slow page loads with new DNS lookups and/or when loading a page with multiple DNS redirected images. If I bypass the router and connect to my ISP directly with the Windows XP PPPoE client and XP firewall, I get much faster page loads. However, java speed tests are exactly the same with either config so for file downloads and VPN connections (tunneling through the firewall) it works perfect.

If MS doesn't release an upgraded firmware soon, adding more functionality to the router, I'll probably buy a stand-alone firewall and keep the MN-700 as a great WAP.

So, in short, if you need strong router performance, look elsewhere but keep this in mind for a great, inexpensive home WAP.

    Seems as "You Luv it or you hate it", March 5, 2004
By alwaysup (Sherman, Texas United States)
I replaced a wired homenetwork of 4 PC's running Win98se on 2PC's, Win XP and Win2K on dual boot machine(connected to cable modem), and finally a WinXP Pro box with MN-720 adapter. I only run wireless on the one XP Pro box but setup was easy and all machines works fine.
One reason that I believe DSL connection problems with this base station and the occasional cable modem problem is the quality of the broadband connection. First off DSL is flakey in my book and dependent on a lot of factors hinging around phone lines. Cable is superior conduit for data depending upon reliability of cable provider. That said, I have had zero lost connections for the two months of operation and connection at 54mbps 95% of the time. It is true that the software interface with the base station takes a pretty long time refreshing network components, but this is only a minor inconvenience. I was astounded at how easy the dual boot machine configured. I was initially worried that after install in the XP partition that booting into the Win2K partition was going to be a nightmare, but no problem! I suggest for those who give bad reviews to check the status and reliability of their broadband connection before blaming the hardware. I left a wired network primarily due to the Linksys router having tremendous difficulty with port forwarding setup to facilitate netcam sessions in MSN Messenger. I now regularly netcam with family all across the country without a hitch! I love it!


    Worst router I've ever configured, March 4, 2004
By unknown
I am a consultant. I tried setting this up at a client with Verizon DSL. The WAN (DSL) connection would drop after 30 seconds each time. Resetting everything didn't help, and neither did getting a new DSL Modem nor anything else. Verizon had me do a number of exotic troubleshooting steps that no home user wants to do, nor needs to do as shown by the following.

I left and came back with my own old DI-614+ 802.11b router and it worked like a charm - no need to configure the DSL Modem or anything else - all it needed was to put PPPoE in the router and put in the verizon user name and password in the router as well, and everything worked perfectly. Incidentally, Verizon DSL only supports Linksys routers specifically, but will give you general instructions for any router, in my experience.

Also, avoid the software utility if you can - it's better to configure it via the web interface.

The LAN part works fine, so if that's all you need, it'll be OK.

Bottom Line: Avoid this one and get a D-Link or Netgear instead - if not, a linksys may work, too, though I've had some bad experiences with the quality of the WRT-54G router as well.

    Router not a finished product yet, March 2, 2004
By Steven Tobin (Minnesota)
This router has several serious bugs, the main one being it keeps loosing the internet connection through a cable modem. About every 5-10 minutes you have to reset both modems to regain the connection. A widespread and consistant problem, amoung others. See: microsoft.public.broadbandnet.hardware newgroup before you buy! No word from MS on a fix, don't seem to care.

    Up and running in no time!, March 2, 2004
By eugenerajpolt (Colorado Springs, CO United States)
After 2 days and many hours on the phone with Gateway & MSN tech support (help in setting up a Gateway brand router with MSN Broadband), I finally gave up and purchased the MN-700. I was so pleased. Set up was a breeze. Both wired and wireless computers working flawlessly. Haven't lost connectivity yet.

    I thought I'd be safe buying Microsoft..I was wrong, February 21, 2004
By Neil (Yorktown Heights, NY USA)
the router did not work correctly from the start. Approximately an hour after installing it, connected to a Microsoft USD Adapter M510, it quit all-together. I immediately called Microsoft Product Support. What a waste of time. After going through getting a case number I was eventually connected to a "router expert". The gentleman was very courteous but, unfortunately, had an extremely thick accent and I had some difficulty understanding him. (Another American job gone overseas) We spent almost an hour of my running between the base station (where the router was) and the slave (where the adapter was) Suddenly the telephone connection to support went dead. I had used up the power in my portable telephone. After a reasonable interval I received a call back from support and we continued to work on the problem. Unfortunately, with no success. The line went dead again. This time, at no fault of my own. There was no call back. I called support again and using my case number got a new gentleman, with less of an accent. We had to go through the entire procedure again and again, no success. After about two hours with the "router experts" I was told it was Microsoft XP that was the culprit and he asked me to hold on to be transferred to a "XP Expert"...he never came back. Nor did I. I chucked the router and adapter, drilled a hole through my wall and hooked up to a replacement wired router. (not microsoft's). All is well now.

    Not ready for release, February 14, 2004
By unknown
Bought this router 2 weeks ago to replace wired network. I have 2 wired connections from desktop computers and one wireless from laptop.
Here are some observations:
1) 2-3 sec delay when openning the page with browser
2) Setup was not that easy (my configuration was not described in the manual)- had to call tech support 2 times
3) Even though download speeds measure OK, overall impression is that this thing is sooooooo S-L-O-W (possibly due to 2-3 sec lag).
4) Can not disable the farewall

5) Wouldn't work with PPPoE (DSL) at all without firmware upgrade - would randomly drop connection
6) When open the browser after turning computer on, have to reload the page few times just to get DHCP working
7) Loses wireless connection from 2.4 GHz phones
8) Some pictures are not displayed in the browser - was told to clear the cache (???). Hm, never had that issue with wired router before

Overall, I am very dissatisfied with the product, considering the fact that at least I am able to surf the net and download files. Look first on microsoft's website to find disscusion groups on this router and see for yourself what to expect before buying it.
I would give it a 1 star but at least I was able to get it "working".
I noticed some positive reviews here too. Did you try to connect directly to the net to see if there is a difference in speed?

    Does not work with DSL, February 12, 2004
By Microsoft sucks (Louisiana)
The router does not work with Bellsouth DSL. I spent two hours on the phone with tech support without resloution. There is a probelm with this router dropping off while using the PPPoE. Tried configuring dynamically but could not. All my research told me the same assumption: IF YOU HAVE DSL AND WANT A ROUTER THAT WORKS WELL, FORGET MICROSOFT!!!!!!
Thankfully i still had my receipt. I took it back and got a Linkys router instead.


    Worked great first time, every time, January 27, 2004
By HJR (Los Angeles, CA United States)
I am using this router and running 2 laptops and a desktop with it. Set-up was fairly easy (I did some manual configurations)and, since I am not using Microsoft wireless adapters, I had to manually configure the computers. I am running an 4 yr old IBM Thinkpad with a Netgear MA111 adapter and also a Dell 3800 laptop (about 2 or 3 yrs old) with the same adapter (802.11b). No problems at all once I configured the WEP security keys,etc. The desktop is an H-P running Windows 98SE, also no problems. When my daughter was here with her new Dell with a 802.11G card, she seemed to have even faster connections.

The farthest I have taken the laptops is out on my deck which is 2 or 3 walls and maybe 50 feet from the router. I have the router conncected to my Comcast cable modem and am surfing the net usually at 1.2-1.7 meg per sec. I would recommend this as a simple, effective way to set up wi-fi at home.

    A Novice get it to work on the first try, January 23, 2004
By Rich (Seattle, WA)
This is my first introduction to wireless networking. I just got this router in January of 2004 and have no disconnection problem reported by other users. I did do an update during setup. It has worked in every way I expected to be. I picked MS MN-700 over the competition, because I heard it is very easy to use.

The setup,
I am a novice and didn't want to be hassles by a lot of informational inputs. This device worked on the first try with Wizard setup. I first plugged it straight to a network card with a cable it worked fine. I have a window 98 and a win2000 computer on. I am using Linksys's Dual band A&G on my XP laptop and all I had to do is enter the network key on the card and it will work. You might have to plug the router with an ethernet cable before you can set up the wireless connection; that is what I did.

Conclusion,
I read that you can not extend the range with a wireless bridge with the MN-700 and I was a little bum (never had to also). If you want to compare performances with this device to other go to CNET first. This is a simple device, which doesn't have much configuration to play with. The exterior design is nice; I like how it looks standing up or sideway on my desk. Most of my friends said go with D-link, but I am happy with this pick.

    the one that i bought is being returned soon, January 17, 2004
By rfreeborn (New York, NY)
I got this one for my girlfriend for Christmas. She was really excited to get it up and running in her apartment - oops.

The stability of the .g version versus the .b version is inexplicable. I have had my .b up and running for MONTHS - never had a problem. I couldn't get this .g router to be stable for more then 20 minutes at a time. I did all the updates, ran through the setup just like MS said to do - nada, nothin.

After struggling through this on a Wednesday night and Thursday morning I bought her a .b to replace it on Saturday. Got that one running and working fine in about 15 minutes and haven't had a problem since. Sticking this one in the mail in the next few days to return it.

I really don't know what the hell the problem is between these two but MS has a homerun with the first one and this one pretty much blows.

r.

    Easy and reliable, January 7, 2004
By stuartm (United States)
First, a disclaimer - I am an ex-Microsoft employee (but not in this area). I bought this at retail after I had left, so my experience is as a normal customer.

I bought this to replace a Linksys wireless router that I had set up on an existing network as a wireless access point for my wife's laptop (which wasn't located in a spot convenient to our Ethernet connections).

The Linksys was very unreliable as an access point and I am not a networking expert. So I decided to try the MS solution (where I knew the focus was on ease of installation). Since I was upgrading anyway, I bumped up to G.

Installation went completely by the book (including an auto update after I installed the base software). Within 30 minutes, I had the hardware set up, the software installed, the new notebook adaptor in my wife's laptop and the connections made.

It has worked flawlessly for 6 weeks since then. I also have a Dell laptop with the Centrino B wireless adaptor built in and it connects easily and reliably as well.

I also like the vertical setup over the Linksys. It looks better and is more space efficient. And the status lights are visible from more angles.

Overall, I was pleasantly surprised at how easily this setup and how well it has worked. Recommended.

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